Why are Finns so easy to hang out with online?

An English speaker using non-verbal communication.

Tell me if you agree (if you can). This is a thought that just popped into my head and I’m not sure if my hypothesis is accurate or not, but I’m going to share it with you regardless. Over the years, I’ve ran several Finnish language communities and tried to start at least equally many in English, with very little luck. I just realised, that from the get go, the Finnish communities have a different feel to them than the English, even though the same person – me – runs them. The same feel is present in other, successful English forums as well. They are far more reserved and cautious than the Finnish equivalent. And isn’t that a surprise if you have spent half a day with a group of Finns face to face!

Finns flock online. We thrive online. We drop our guard in a split second and spill our guts to the world – or well, to our nation, as the world doesn’t speak our language, even Google Translator is at loss with us. Online, we seem amazingly open, friendly and WARM. I make friends of fellow Finns online constantly, but not with such a luck with the English speaking people. A couple, here and there, but not with as much ease. I have a possible explanation for this.

Finns rely on mostly spoken message in their communication even face-to-face. Our basic interaction-face could be described as “a stone face” or “a poker face”. We’ve become extremely efficient in picking up tones and the choice of words from each other, as well as the minimal signals we give out in facial expression. When an English speaker sees no change in a Finns face, we can look at the same person and see if he’s on a bad mood or excited beyond description. But I would guess, that since we are so good at picking up tones in speech, we are more efficient in it in writing as well. Also, the facial expression doesn’t carry as much weight as it does to an English speaker. We would be pretty much as comfortable talking to each other with our heads covered in black bags as we are without them. We would feel silly, but that’s all.

In the photo, I have an English speaker waving his hands around, with a silly grin on his face. As we assume he speaks English, he’s fine. If you saw a public speaker in Finland speaking Finnish doing the same thing, we’d be thinking “what a complete wanker” and would probably not believe a word he said. And probably, the English speaking need exactly that to trust him.

The English speaking, when posting online, are probably thinking a lot more about who is going to read their post. The possibility to be misunderstood is far greater. Essentially, they are speaking to the whole world, to a host of different countries and nationalities, cultures they might not even know about. It puts a fair bit of pressure on you if you start thinking about it too much. Then, of course, they keep telling us that 90% of communication is non-verbal. When you’re not used to relying on people’s words alone, you can feel like you’re walking on thin ice with people you can’t see. Maybe that has been my problem when dealing with the English speaking, maybe they need a lot more reassurance of your character and intentions than the Finns do. I probably can’t use the same template dealing with the English speaking as I do with Finns.

What do you think, especially if you have experience in both nationalities, not only when running online communities, but also chatting with them, tweeting and that.

VN:F [1.9.3_1094]
Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)
Related Posts with Thumbnails
  • ambush123
    mm, trying to edit my comment.. not sure where it went! anyway, i think this is interesting stuff. (visit me on ambush.posterous.com)
  • ambush123
    i just think that's really interesting. thanks, anka

    (read my blog on ambuh.posterous.com)
  • Guest
    i just think this is really interesting. thanks, anka

    (visit my blog on ambush.posterous.com)
  • islandtimethief
    I found a bi-lingual music blog by Mira in Finland and thought you may be interested in visiting it so I dropped in to share the URL with you. http://www.blogcatalog.com/blog/fresh-from-finland
  • I'm familiar with this blog already, for some reason... Can't remember how I came across it. I much prefer their Finnish version of it, the writing is a lot more colourful in Finnish, which is understandable of course. However, I'm so out of the music scene that I don't even attempt to get back into it. I'll just stick with my "golden oldies" from the 90's. :D (I swore at the time I wouldn't do that.)
  • I believe you are the only person I have met online who has stated she was a Finn and you're no shrinking violet. :) Of course that doesn't mean there haven't been other Finns who simply didn't say so. I find the differences you describe to be very interesting.
  • Oh but you haven't met me face to face. :D You wouldn't believe how quiet I am in a face-to-face situation, even so that it surprises a fellow Finn. I remember going to a meet up of a discussion board in 2001, and one of the fellow members told me how surprised she was I wasn't constantly talking. (That's a compliment in Finland. :D)

    That is just what makes this so funny. Online the shy Finns suddenly turn talkative and open. It's weird. Very very weird, but that's what happens.
  • islandtimethief
    I'm an introvert, an INFJ personality type http://typelogic.com/infj.html and I have found that I'm far more 'chatty" online than I am in person. Science has learned a good deal in recent years about the habits and requirements of introverts. It has even learned, by means of brain scans, that introverts process information differently from other people. Extroverts are energized by being in the company of people and tend to fade when alone. Leave an extrovert alone for two minutes and he will reach for his cell phone and attempting to make contact. In contrast, after an hour or two of being in the company of others introverts need to turn off and recharge. maybe there are more introverts among that Fins than extroverts.
  • For sure there are. I'm definitely an introvert, and it is rare to find an extrovert in Finland... I think online communication isn't as tiring for an introvert than being right there with them is. You don't have to focus fully on the person, but you can surf around at the same time, even write a blog post while you do it. The pulse of it is slower and easier to manage. Someone said an extrovert needs to be filled up by external stimulus, while an introvert creates the "content" for themselves. Maybe the external stimulus that comes to an introvert distracts from this creation of internal entertainment, and that is why it's so tiring to an introvert for a prolonged periods of time. Having said that, I love being around even masses of people, but preferably just looking at them, observing them. If there's more than one person with me, I instantly take the back seat to observe them even though the two people were my friends and didn't know each other. The only relaxing people time I have is with one person at a time, preferably a good friend (or a really hot guy in the previous life) at that - or when there's another distraction like in my case, something to do with Barbie to focus on. (I absolutely hate dinner parties. They're the worst. I'd choose a funeral every time over a dinner party.)
blog comments powered by Disqus
Watch my
Social Profilr

Follow me in these Social Networks

Facebook
YouTube
Stumbleupon
Technorati
Twitter
FriendFeed
social profilr
RSS Blogroll
Archives
Google Friend Connect